January 24, 2024
Transcript:
I’d like to introduce something else to you. Is everybody still all right? I want you to hang on with me, and if you’re not excited, just jump on into my excitement. Is that all right? All right, Jude, please.
Jude. Jude is introducing the understanding that the apostasy, the mystery, has already worked, and that we have to fight for what was delivered to the saints by the holy apostles earnestly contend. And then Jude begins to walk through the list of the sons of men, or those that did not believe the original promise.
He says things like they’ve gone in the way of Cain. And he begins to say that these people that are now in apostasy are connected to the people that were unbelievers. There are people that don’t believe like we do. And he runs down the list.
Now, look, please read verse 4 and 14, Brother Yancy. Stay with me a little bit. These people are raging waves of the sea. Oh, we see and hear the foaming of their own shame. Now they’re wandering stars to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.
Hold on and Enoch also read the 7th, everybody say seven, but seven from Adam. What angel are we talking about? The seventh, and Enoch was the 7th from Adam. Now, what angel are we talking about? And Enoch was the 7th from Adam.
So let’s see what he says. Read. Enoch prophesied. He was the 7th from Adam. That means, can I walk through the seven? There’s only seven of ’em. Can I? Adam, Seth, Enos, Canaan, Mahalalel, Jared, Enoch, the 7th from Adam.
And as the seven from Adam holding the place of priest king believing in the promise, he prophesied and said something from the position of seven. Yes, let’s see what he said. Let us see what he said. Read, behold lord. The Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints.
This I’m presenting to your understanding that this 7th trumpet angel is an answer and a fulfilment of the prophecy of the lord coming with ten thousands of his saints. And now he’s going to begin to tell you why he’s coming with ten thousands of saints jumping into my excitement, don’t pay any attention to yourself, read please, to execute judgment upon all and to convince all that are ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed in all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Please read a little bit more. These are murmurers, walking after their own lusts, and their mouth speaking great swelling words. Having men’s person in admiration, listen. Brother Enoch, before the Lord sent ten thousands of his saints in a fiery law, came out of Moses hand.
Execute judgment upon all, convince all the ungodly among them. This is what the seven trumpet angels going to do, breaking the silence of all their ungodly deeds. That’s two times which they have earned. But I want to tell you, he’s making up language. You committed ungodly deeds, and you ungodly committed them.” (Stephen Hargrave)
Stephen’s teaching in this presentation is problematic. He skillfully manipulates the text to fit the COGR mythology, and his interpretation of Jude verse 14 takes a concerning turn. Instead of focusing on the clear message about the Lord coming with thousands of angels, he introduces an imaginative link to the Seventh Angel of Revelation.
This connection is both imaginative and tenuous, deviating from what the Bible teaches. The verse in Jude refers to a coming Lord and a multitude of angels, concepts consistently associated with God, Jesus, and angels in other parts of the Scripture. There is no biblical basis for introducing a Seventh Angel in this context.
Moreover, Stephen’s attempt to replace Jesus with the 7th Trumpet Angel/Ministry is unsupported by the Bible. Numerous verses refer to Jesus as Lord and other verses predict his return with angels for judgment. In contrast, there are no verses designating the Seventh Angel as Lord.
The identification proposed by Stephen raises several issues:
Jude mentions Enoch as seventh to clarify which Enoch is being referred to, not to attribute magical significance to his position.
Jesus is consistently referred to as Lord in numerous verses, unlike the Seventh Angel of Revelation.
Jesus is predicted to return with a multitude of angels, not the Seventh Angel.
Myriads of angels are associated with Jesus and God, not the Seventh Angel.
Jesus is portrayed as the ultimate Judge, not the Seventh Angel.
Stephen’s connection between Jude and the 7th angel lacks biblical support and appears to be a poorly thought-through supposition.
Finally, Stephen’s understanding is novel. Bible scholars almost universally understand Jude to be referring to Jesus.
In essence, Stephen’s teaching attempts to remove Jesus and insert the 7th Trumpet Angel/Ministry, a distortion of orthodox Christian beliefs. It’s crucial to recognize the inaccuracies in his interpretation.
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